Why was the ‘In the Cage Medley’ left off the Invisible Touch Tour DVD?
Tony Banks explained during the production of the DVD that the decision was made before the concerts not to even film this section of the show. The High-Definition tapes that were used to film the show could only hold a certain amount and therefore needed changing at some point during the concert. The tapes ran a maximum of 90 minutes and changing them was not a 10 second job. It took 3 professional analogue tape recorders, each the size of a domestic washing machine using open reel tape to record the signal.
Before the shows took place, it was agreed between the director and the band that, as “In The Cage” had been present on both the previous two Video releases, it could be omitted for the new release, and therefore the cameramen were instructed to change their camera tapes during this part of the concert.
Three Sides Live 1982 | In the Cage Medley – The Colony of Slipperman
In the Cage Medley – Mama Tour Live Birmingham 1984
It seemed for a while that it might be possible to include the audio of the “In the Cage” medley as a bonus extra, however that was not possible as no multitrack recordings of that section of the show could be found.
In The Cage-In That Quiet Earth-Apocalypse in 9/8 Live in Los Angeles 15 October 1986.
Live in Joe Louis Arena, Detroit MI 20 September 1986
Another frequently raised point about the missing “In The Cage” is that in the Tour documentary section of the DVD, there is some footage of “In The Cage” being performed, along with other tracks which were not performed at the Wembley shows. It is true that this footage does show “In The Cage”. However, the footage in this documentary is either taken from the band’s own camcorders (the tapes from which are now lost or deleted) or from an MTV show which broadcast part of a concert in Toronto, the rights for which belong to MTV. As with the Berkeley show in 1975, only part of this show was recorded and televised, and they almost certainly did not film the whole ‘Cage’ medley.
You can in fact hear that the soundtrack to the “Apocalypse in 9/8” section is dubbed on from “Seconds Out” which therefore proves that the footage is not useable for DVD release.”
Taken from the Genesis General FAQ – The Genesis Forum
However, is this recently uploaded youtube video actually a professionally shot document of the In The Cage Medley from Wembley Stadium?
It does look really good. What do you think?
Richie drums from youtube has a sound theory: “It looks like the Niedersachsenstadion. Hannover, Germany. When it shows Chester playing you can see they are playing to the width of the stadium. Also they are wearing the same clothes as TV footage from the niedersachsenstadion. This has got to be footage from the screens at the concert. Its all close ups of the musicians. Why at the end of afterglow would you chose to show pictures of Phil Collins back instead of the amazing light show!”
The whole song can be played on Youtube (Must be played within Youtube)
“Back in 2007, Tony became asked on Hannover interview for existing Pro-shot Stuff from The Invisible Touch Tour. Tony: “We did record the Hannover Show on that Tour, but just with stage cameras, and it was used for some kind of broadcast.””
It’s not Wembley: the ‘roof’ you can see in the Chester shots (0.31 and 0.39) are of another stadium.
No it’s not Wembley. The snippets are indeed from the complete Hannover show which was filmed by various stage cameras. As far as Tony saying back in 2007 he didn’t actually confirm they filmed the in the Cage medley he didn’t know, he only recalled they filmed Hannover with stage camera’s.
The upload is a confirmation that they did in fact film it.
Thanks Richard and theo. Looks like all information is pointing to a recorded (stage cameras only) performance of the Hannover show.
I saw 2 show’s of the Invisible Touch Tour 1987 in Germany.
The first at the Niedersachsenstadium open air and the second show at
the Westfalenhalle in Dortmund. Dortmund was the best, because the Band played indoors!
The lightshow was and is the absolute best i’ve seen in my life!
I can definitely say, that Genesis didn’t performed the In The Cage Medley in both shows!
Years later, i was surprised to hear, that the band played In The Cage live at Wembley.
Kind regards from germany